Dr. Tara Perry is a Clinical Hypnotherapist & Doctor of Acupuncture and Chinese Medicine.

Dr. Tara Perry is a Clinical Hypnotherapist & Doctor of Acupuncture and Chinese Medicine.

She specializes in Core Trauma Transformation, helping people get to the root of their biggest block, connect to their authentic selves, and thrive in deep confident peace. For 25 years, Dr. Perry has successfully treated celebrities, Olympians, first responders, world record holders, doctors, scientists, teachers, parents, and children. Clients suffering from Anxiety, PTSD, Stress, Trauma, Addiction, Pain, Insomnia and a variety of other challenges have discovered the power of their subconscious mind to heal better and faster than they thought possible.

Dr. Perry has been featured on Lifetime Television, Esquire Magazine, UCLA Bruin, Fox Sports West, Wall Street Journal, CosMed Magazine, Travel Host Magazine and many more. For 10 years, Dr. Perry taught at the #1 Acupuncture College in California. In 2000, she was chosen to be the first acupuncture teacher at the famous Arthur Ashe Center at UCLA. Dr. Perry hosts her own podcast as well--available on all major platforms called Next Level Healing.

http://consulttara.com/

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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:55

Welcome, dr Tara Perry, to Quantum Alchemist Master Podcast. It's a pleasure to have you here. I'm actually really excited to hear about you, your journey, because a lot of what we want to share is going within. It's going to the root cause. It's going to a lot of the stuff, that inner alchemy process. So I'm actually myself I'm really excited to hear what you have to say and what you have to offer.

Speaker 2: 1:24

Well, I am so delighted to be here. I love your message. When I heard your welcome intro to the show, I just I thought, oh my gosh, this is my space Because, like you said, it's totally an inside job. If you want to have a different life experience, the place to start is within. So, as I had mentioned before we started, I did acupuncture nutritional medicine for 23 years.

Speaker 2: 1:50

I had my office in Santa Monica, beverly Hills and Belmont Shore and then one of my patients was really struggling with some trauma issues and she was really excited about what she was doing. And when I found out it was based in hypnosis, I was like oh, I want to meet your person. And I did an exchange with that person because I knew that there was so much power in the subconscious mind. You know, scientists know that 90 to 95% of our mind is our subconscious mind. That means it's below the level of our consciousness Holy holy crow. I mean, if we're walking around with just five to 10% awareness of what's going on up there, that's a really limited toolbox and I had known and worked with a couple of the top hypnotists the top hypnotists in Los Angeles but they weren't diving as deep into the subconscious and as directly into the subconscious as I found that this methodology does, and I've had the joy and the privilege of working with a lot of top people on the planet Marissa Peer, joe Dispenza and Tony Robbins. Whether you like him or not, there's a reason he gets a million dollars for eight hours of his time. He really knows how to dive into the subconscious and leverage what's in there.

Speaker 2: 3:03

I'd love to say we stand on the shoulder of giants. Part of our brain doesn't want to change. In fact, I was just listening to one of your podcasts and the person you were interviewing was talking about that very phenomena, which is that familiar, is perceived as safe by the brain and even if that's horrible, it's kind of crazy how we keep reverting back to that. So we really have to ask ourselves what is the secondary gain I get from that? What is the secondary gain I get from that?

Speaker 2: 3:54

What is my attraction to being stuck in that? What is the payoff I get for being stuck in that? Because that experience of going someplace else, of transforming I see you have a butterfly behind you and that's the perfect image of a transformation To go into that cocoon, to go into that imaginal soup and allow ourselves to just be disintegrated and emerge as something new takes a willingness and an effort, because if we keep, it's crazy how many people knock on the door and they're like I want change, I want change, I want change. And then, when change shows up, they're like you know, nope, nope, don't see it, that's not there.

Speaker 1: 4:25

I second that a hundred percent, if I may interrupt you a little bit just to dive a little bit deeper and then just give a little bit more insight in regards to that. So I speak about my own journey a lot, and exactly what you said, you know, happened to me like six years ago and it's a whole process is still happening, it's still unfolding. I'm still learning and still transforming every day. But, yes, when you know, when change knocks on the door there is that resistance, you know, before you embody and really expand that frequency that you want to step into the next level of your of yourself, become closer to your higher self, into whatever it is that you came here to do.

Speaker 1: 5:08

So it's really beautiful that you talk about your subconscious mind, because it's almost like we're going around with our blindfolds on and just really relying so heavily on our repetitive patterns, on our programming from childhood, not to go into anything farther to deep water, but just childhood. You know the institutions we went to, our religion, et cetera, not to say there's anything bad about that. All of that is beautiful and it's perfect for our journey. But you know we're walking around with programming, heavy programming, and I just invite people to question it. You know that's it. You know you don't necessarily need to change, but is it serving you right? So, really, and self-introspection, to really look within and see, hey, is there anything here that you know like, why do I always react in this way? Where is the root cause of that? And going going deeper. So thank you for pointing that out. I hope if anybody really hears this, something clicks. You know, it's like that aha moment and really just take a second to realize that and bring that into your awareness. Thank you.

Speaker 2: 6:23

I just interviewed a Harvard professor and researcher who's been doing this for 40 years, ellen Langer. Many transformational experts reference her work all the time and she really shows in very quantifiable scientific ways how just reframing things again, this is all the subconscious programming. We don't even realize what's holding us back, what's keeping us down. She's the one that did the study with the older men where they put them into two groups and one group went and reminisced over the good old days and the other group went and lived the good old days and they measured scientifically all these biological markers, cognitive markers and the ones that reminisced over the good old days. They didn't have any change, of any import.

Speaker 2: 7:12

The ones that went and lived the good old days they physiologically became younger, they became taller, they became more flexible. They physiologically became younger, they became taller, they became more flexible, they had better cognitive ability. And this is just a week of basically pretending to be younger. So again, what you're talking about, we do have so much subconscious programming that is impacting us beyond what we could possibly imagine. So anything we can do to go in and tweak and leverage those things so that we're creating a better outcome with our subconscious mind is definitely waters that I know you and I want to swim in.

Speaker 1: 7:50

So yeah, and when it comes a lot to manifestation, everybody wants instant manifestation. And you know, it wasn't really until I dove deep, deep into my subconscious mind that I was not able to really get the outcome I was looking for, because I reached kind of like a threshold. I'm a nurse practitioner for 10 years, you know I was I reached the top of my career. Then I went to have businesses and I went into real estate and there was just that I couldn't break through that threshold. And it wasn't until I addressed my subconscious mind and started doing energy work and stuff like that and just like expanding my awareness perception and just being open right to different possibilities.

Speaker 1: 8:34

Maybe I didn't have all the answers right, and now that I got a few answers, I'm like, okay, I don't know anything at all. I'm just like I know less than I believe I do because we're honestly, I believe that we have access to 0.00 infinity of the whole ecosystem in regards to consciousness. So, you know, because we're experiencing from this limited perspective as us, so it's really quite interesting how you know, I'm just very happy that we're most of us are starting to wonder, you know, what else is there, what's in the subconscious mind? And let me dive deep in there, let me swim in that water, let me see what I can discover about myself, how I can make an impact in the world. So to me, all of that stuff is so beautiful, so wonderful and so mysterious. So thank you for bringing that in. Let me ask you something about you in regards to how do you land up in doing this kind of work?

Speaker 2: 9:35

That's a great question. So it was through that patient of mine that was having the trauma in her background and she had found that going into her subconscious and working with these methodologies was helping her so much. So when I first dove in and thank God it was before COVID, because when COVID finally hit I had been brick and mortar for 23 years. I had been seeing people face to face in my office, in my medical offices and, thank God, when COVID hit I had been brick and mortar for 23 years. You know, I had been seeing people face to face in my office and my medical offices and, thank God, when COVID hit it was a natural thing for me to just start working with people all over the world, because I can do this virtually. And again then I started just. I'm very intrigued with what Dr Joe Dispenza is doing, so I'm going to my eighth live event with him in a couple of weeks and you know anybody who's willing to do that work simultaneously to working with me. I highly encourage it because nobody, in as far as I know, is doing a better job of quantifying what goes on to your blood, what goes on to your brainwaves, what goes on with your microbiome when you start bringing your body into this delicious heart and brain coherence, which, of course, heartmath has been studying for a very long time, and they have devices to study that as well. But it's not, you know, it doesn't need to be complicated, it doesn't need to be overwhelming, it's just you have to do very, very simple steps so that you start practicing, you know, working with your mind and not having, you know, so many people and I know you hear this too they're like well, I can't meditate, my brain is just too all over the place. Yeah, that's exactly why you need to meditate. You know, it's so crazy.

Speaker 2: 11:11

I was just working with somebody the other day and, like one of her huge outcomes, when we got connected to her subconscious mind, she was just craving peace. And it's like okay, well, what's the recipe for you getting peace? Oh, it's to go into nothing. And it's like the one thing she resists the most is like well, I can't meditate more than five minutes. And it's like so, she's got this one pedal on the foot, on the brake, and the other one on the gas, and it's like wearing the car out. So again it's like well, what does what does our soul really, really, really, really want and then just allow that to unfold.

Speaker 2: 11:46

And when you get into one of my meditation teachers who, uh, god bless him, I love him. He, he went into prisons for so many years and taught prisoners how to meditate in maximum security prisons and he won the PASS Award, which is a prestigious award for helping prevent recidivism. There's been so many studies that show that when prisoners are taught how to meditate, you know they don't have, they don't go back to prison. They, they don't. They can, they can free themselves from the inside out, and it's it's. My meditation teacher would describe it as like going in and finding where the knots are. You know, and you don't push the knots and burn the knots and push them away and stuff them in a closet somewhere. You go deep within them and allow them to just unravel and open, like a flower would open in the sun, and then it can have the opportunity to transform and leave. But it can't if it's the thing that's always pushed away. You know, what we resist persists.

Speaker 1: 12:41

Wow, I want to ask you something. It sounds wonderful what you're, what you're doing, number one and I'm I'm going to be sharing this in a couple of ways. I would love to do like a little live on on Instagram to kind of shed more light on your work. I think it is so, so necessary. Like this is what we need right now. It's one of those tools that I think it's a must that we're we're not paying as much attention to. And the other thing is your teacher still alive.

Speaker 2: 13:15

Oh yes, in fact I want to interview him, for I have a podcast called Next Level Healing, ellen Langer. She's the Harvard researcher who has been 40 years. She's been doing this crazy research, which again shows you the power of how we categorize things and how that affects our lives. I'll just mention another one that she did. She took these overweight housekeepers in hotels and half of them. They divided them both into two groups and one of them they said you know, they gave vacuuming, you're changing beds or lifting you're, you're pushing your. You know, you, you are really doing great exercise every day. You have met the surgeon general's requirement for healthy exercise. And they just informed them of what they were already doing. And guess what happened? A month later, they had lost more weight, their blood pressure had measurably dropped I mean all these wonderful health outcomes just because they realized, oh, I'm doing healthy things.

Speaker 1: 14:23

I think I need a session with you. I've been battling a lot with hormonal issues and stuff like that and I've done a lot of subconscious work. I literally dive deep every single day into breathwork, meditation and all these things. But that's been one of the things that I've been. It's been like two years. Two years ago I never had any issues with that and of course I know it has a deeper root cause to it emotionally and so forth. But yeah, I've been transitioning that. So maybe you and I should get together and dive a little bit deeper. See if I can convince myself that by playing soccer I've done enough exercise to drop some pounds. Go and uncover that with you. About your teacher, that I wanted to ask you I'm sorry to take away the spotlight for a second.

Speaker 2: 15:08

No, no, I love him and I want him to have the spotlight. His name is Alan Gompers. He wrote a book called Maximum Security. It's not a well-known book but if any of your listeners are filmmakers, it would be a phenomenal feature film. In fact, he had a conversation with the head of the Motion Picture Academy in Hollywood years ago and the guy loved it, but he said it's more visual in the first half than the second half.

Speaker 2: 15:33

I mean, he had this extraordinary life. He basically was the wolf of Wall Street not the guy, but somebody just like him. He was making $700,000 a month back in the gosh was it the 80s or the 70s? I mean he was making more money than he could spend, but he was doing it in a way that was not terribly ethical and he ended up getting busted on that and in court he was so clever that he and his friend talked themselves out of court, free men, but they couldn't practice that anymore. Anyway, he had to make up this. I don't mean to cover the whole book, but he had this extraordinary life. But he ended up going to prison on a drug bust that was like an ounce and a half of cocaine, which was lunchtime in the film business when I was in Hollywood. It was really. You know, I'm not a cocaine person, but cocaine was widely used in that environment at that time. Yeah, and I don't recommend it. I've never done it. I'm not a cocaine person, disclaimer. Yeah, disclaimer.

Speaker 2: 16:42

But he ends up in maximum security prison and he's a little Jewish guy in maximum security prison in New York State, so it was terrifying, to say the least. He ends up running around the track in the prison, sits down and in an instant, experiences enlightenment. It was one of those crazy enlightenment stories. So he ends up finding a book from Siddha Yoga. He goes into macrobiotic eating, he ends up transforming the prison and he ends up being one of four people in the entire state of New York to receive a full pardon. Wow, that's deep.

Speaker 2: 17:22

And at that point he was not even in a hurry to leave the prison. He was happy, he found peace. Yeah, he was a happy, peaceful guy and he wasn't in a hurry to leave. But he is an extraordinary man. He's not a young man anymore, but he's, he is an extraordinary man, he's. He's not a young man, uh, anymore, um, but he's still working with people. He's still. He has transformed so many lives and um, alan, I adore you and and yes, I am going to be doing an interview with him coming up on my podcast soon. Very cool.

Speaker 1: 17:51

So stay tuned, I'm going to keep an eye out for that. The reason why I'm asking he's not. He's not a big tech guy, he doesn't like tech and still I think he has a flip phone still Good for him. So, um, the reason why I was asking initially is because I'm looking to take breath work, um, and and some of the work that we do into prisons and, uh, recovery facilities and mental health, um.

Speaker 1: 18:17

So I would love if maybe you can connect us or you can ask him if he's open to the connection and see how maybe we can collaborate on something or some ideas, or he can put me in touch with somebody to kind of start introducing these things in places where it's not so readily accessible or they don't have the awareness of that because they're in survival mode. I mean, you're just literally trying not to eat and sleep and make it out. But I think this these you know all these tools meditation, breath work, the subconscious reprogramming of the mind and stuff like that these are amazing tools that maybe, if we get them, you know, at least in there somehow, whoever it resonates with and it's open and it's ready, it's going to, it's going to ask for it and it's going to be open to try it. So, yes, I would love if maybe we can make that connection Absolutely. Thank you, thank you so much.

Speaker 2: 19:09

It's transformative for people that are in dire circumstances like that and really need some kind of light to find their authentic self, so that they don't end up going down a pathway that ends up, you know, with drugs or homelessness, or or or a long legal record that they can't ever get past 100%.

Speaker 1: 19:34

So tell us maybe I know it's the. You know HIPAA and patient confidentiality, but is there any cool story or any kind of like testimony that you can kind of make sure, like you know, of somebody that was dealing with something, that they were able to work with you and kind of overcome this or make some sort of progress into that or any funny story? Anything you want to share it could be a personal story as well.

Speaker 2: 19:59

The whole reason I started podcasting is because I was getting all these crazy great results and I wanted to get the word out. So there's lots of testimonials on my YouTube channel. It's either Dr Tara Perry or Dr Tara Grace Perry. You can find me on YouTube and you can also find me on my podcast, next Level Healing. They're all on there.

Speaker 2: 20:19

But for example, there was a woman I worked with who was attacked by a Rottweiler and she went through six jaw surgeries. She had developed a choking disorder. Every time she ate she was at risk of going to the ER. She had three young children. She's a beautiful woman and this was a huge drain on their family. She was living in fear of losing more teeth, having more surgeries, and literally in the first session she realized this was the answer for her and by the second session she just wasn't having those issues at all anymore. I had another gal who saw her husband catch on fire. He is fine, but it ignited. He's fine, it was not serious, but you know just the smell of the shirt burning and the. You know he singed his flesh, but he's, I mean it was, it wasn't. If you met him you would never know he had any kind of burn and she ignited PTSD in her. She became allergic to all but five foods. She had mold going on, babesia, mast cell inflammation, lyme. She was diagnosed with all of these things. She was down to eating five foods and I think one of them was salt and the other one was olive oil. I mean, she really was losing her mind. Her husband said look, I don't know what else to do with you. You either have to see Tara or go to a mental institution because there's nothing. I don't know what else to do with you. She was doing acupuncture twice a week, neurofeedback, biofeedback, and she did not want to come. But she came and fortunately she did, because she was able to experience more peace than she had felt in her entire lifetime and by the end of the three sessions she just didn't have to do all those doctor's visits. She was able to resume a happy, normal life. Able to resume a happy, normal life.

Speaker 2: 22:01

Um, I've had so many people um, one gal had been through 16 years of therapy. She was having daily panic attacks, um and uh, you know, by the end of the three sessions she just was able to feel, she said, her soul just felt like it should. Um, she didn't feel like the trauma to her whole being was there anymore, um, so I worked with one guy. He uh was an advanced uh dispensa person. Um, and he had it's, he. But he still had 40 years of back pain from breaking his spine in a motorcycle accident. And, um, he was all excited when he found I was an acupuncturist. And I said, look, you've done acupuncture, you've done chiropractic, why don't we find out? You know what's? Let's go to command central and find out what's getting in the way of your healing. And he said, great, sign me up. And uh, in just the first uh two sessions, after 60 days, he um didn't have the pain anymore. Wow. So there's just all kinds of stories, um, on Google and Yelp there's over a hundred five-star reviews of different people with different issues.

Speaker 2: 22:57

Sometimes people don't feel worthy, they don't feel like they can ask for money, even though they're highly, highly, highly accomplished people. One gal that I worked with is an oral surgeon and brilliant, amazing. I love her, she's actually a friend of mine and you know she. She said, look, I just don't feel comfortable asking for money. She says I don't know what it is.

Speaker 2: 23:20

We went back to the root cause and the reason. It was the easiest thing ever. She was doing homework and her sister was even smarter than she is, so and I mean that person has a very substantial medical career right now. But the father said something that just she took it to heart is oh, I'm not worth it, I'm not good enough, I'm not. And that just again. It's that programming that gets stuck in that subconscious mind and people are like an iPhone 14 operating on iPhone 4 technology. So we just rewrote the program and I called her up two months later and I said, hey, how's it going? And she says, oh my God, I go home with more energy. I and I said, hey, how's it going? And she says, oh my God, I go home with more energy, I'm a better wife, I'm a better mother. I said, dollar wise, what's it worth to your business to be able to ask for what you're worth?

Speaker 1: 24:05

She says, oh, about $10,000 more a month. That's great, that should be a good reason.

Speaker 2: 24:09

On that subject. I worked with another gal. I met her at a dispenser retreat. She says look, I didn't have any problem asking for money when I was a lawyer, but I'm a gallerist now in Europe and I just don't feel comfortable asking for money. It's hurting my clients, it's hurting my business and it's just exhausting. We went back to the root cause and the reason it was so completely not what she expected and we rewired it. Now she sells paintings for $30,000 and 30 and 40 000 a piece and has a great time. So it again. It's. It's just so crazy.

Speaker 2: 24:45

What's, uh, stored in the subconscious mind? Your conscious mind is processing 40 bits of information per second. Your subconscious mind is processing 40 million bits of information per second. And again, the definition of subconscious is below the level of your consciousness. So what's swimming around in there? And I invite people to have some playful curiosity about it, because we seem to do ourselves so much harm, especially in our society. We beat ourselves up so badly. Most of us would not stand for a child being treated the way we treat ourselves every single day.

Speaker 1: 25:22

Absolutely 100%. You know what, if it's okay with you, because we do a lot of breathwork retreats and sessions and ceremonies and stuff like that live as well as online, and we have a mental health practitioner with us for the integration session, as well as myself, based on my own journey working with plant medicine near death and all these things that I've been through myself. But you know what I will love it to include you as a resource on you know farther integration process and and working with that as a reference in case somebody wants to reach out to you. I think they'll be extremely, extremely valuable Because, as you know, with with going into the subconscious, mind is like you have a glass of water and you know a lot of stuff can come up. You're like staring that and you're accessing stored emotions and memories and stuff like that. And you know we do spend a lot of time and offer a whole integration program. But if anybody feels that they need additional help, I would love them if they could get in touch with you. That would be really, really amazing.

Speaker 2: 26:28

Absolutely Happy to connect on that.

Speaker 1: 26:30

Thank you so much. Let me ask you something, something else. So how have you applied what you've learned in your own personal life? Is there anything you were particularly dealing with that you said, hey, let me dive deep into that, let me do what I preach and see how I can rewire this and just get myself on a better track.

Speaker 2: 26:49

Yeah, that's a great question. So I would say my dad was probably something was going on there either bipolar, narcissistic, um, you know, one minute, he, I'd be the center of the universe the next minute. He didn't care if I was breathing or not, um, and it wasn't his fault, you know. He just was who he was and he did the best he could and he wasn't a bad person. There was, you know, I I look at the parents that are out there and I, you know I, I didn't get beaten as a child or sexually abused or anything like that. So I'm, I'm deeply grateful for, for having a good childhood. Um, but that aspect makes you, you know, quite, you, you, you always feel like you have to prove yourself. Um, you know you, you, um, you don't feel like, uh, you know you don't, you don't inherently feel worthy, um, so you're, you're constantly out there, you know you don't, you don't inherently feel worthy. So you're constantly out there, you know, doing the next best thing. You know, out there, proving yourself at the next level. So, so, finally, just in and access my subconscious mind was huge, because I didn't again realize all this was stuck in there, even though I had done decades worth of work. It's really surprising at the stuff that gets stuck in there. So it's a process and that's another thing I would share with people. You want to develop like this upward spiral, so that you know, as you release stuff that doesn't serve you, as you start frequency.

Speaker 2: 28:27

Uh, mike Murphy, very, very tiny book, one of the best books on law of attraction I've ever read. In fact, I've got an interview with him coming out in a couple of weeks. The teensy, tiny book, um, it's his life story. He went from having nothing to having it all, um, and he did it with law of attraction. He met this crazy guy in the middle of nowhere, paid him $50 an hour for seven sessions and that was everything he had. He was working in a terrible restaurant for tips. You know this was years ago, so $50 was, you know, probably more like 200 or $300 today. But it's forwarded by Jack Canfield, who is, of course, the granddaddy of law of attraction training, who is, of course, the granddaddy of uh of law of attraction training. Um and uh. Anyway, it's just a valuable little little book for helping people with with law of attraction. Um. You asked me a question and I went off on a different tangent. What was?

Speaker 1: 29:28

your question. You're good and you did answer it. Um, it was really a situation in your, in your particular um life that you have implemented, working with your subconscious mind and reprogramming, and you mentioned your dad and a lot of work with that.

Speaker 2: 29:43

I want to finish that for sure, because, as you do this, I mean I love the book Atomic Habits.

Speaker 2: 29:49

It talks about how, if you just get 1% better each and every day, that compounds on itself. So it's really important that you make these little subtle shifts in your life, whether it's your breath work, whether it's your meditation, whether it's your grounding in your time in nature, whether it's gratitude, whether it's forgiveness and that's forgiveness of everybody, forgiveness of other people, forgiveness of God and, ultimately, forgiveness of yourself. You know, if you just get 1% better at each and every day, your vibration improves and you find that you start connecting with other people whose vibration is up and opportunities start to become available to you. You start to realize what your path in the world is in a more authentic, deeper way, and it just feels so much better. It's a lighter, happier, more joyful way of being, more blissful way of being. Gosh, the meditations and the breath work I do now I can't even believe how good it feels. Sometimes I'm like, okay, well, I can't do this too much more, because it just feels too good.

Speaker 1: 30:58

You know. Also, something else I want to point out is that meditation does not look the same, in my opinion, for everyone. So a lot of people and I am speaking from my own personal experience, I can't speak for other people, but you know, a lot of the information I had heard about meditation was just sitting and having no thoughts, okay. So I want to speak in regards a little bit to that and then let you shed some light. And so for me, when I started meditating, it was hard. I don't think I could be there more than five minutes, but I was trying to just blank out the mind purposely, like forcing myself not to think anything. And then I started changing and adding mantras to it or music to try to do a pattern interrupt in regards to that. That helped a little bit, but I wasn't. It was not what I was looking for. Still, I couldn't go deep. And then, of course, I had, you know, my near death working with plant medicine and that opened up a whole different, like my third eye opened up.

Speaker 1: 31:56

And now my meditation when I go in, I like to a lot connect with the core of the earth and from there, be able to really go into my subconscious mind and to other realms and really explore a little bit more. But that came with practice, with time, with my clairs being a lot more opened. So now my meditations are more like movies, like they're teaching me. I connect with my guides and I have a different type of meditation and I have that type of meditation and then I have purposely more awareness and presence, where I don't want to travel out of my body or have out of body experiences and stuff like that, and I purposely want to be more breath aware and just aware of my body sensations and stay more in my body and by noticing and putting my awareness into my breath, into my body sensations, I literally go into presence, into that nothingness. So there are just different types and ways of meditating.

Speaker 1: 32:57

For me, when I do yoga, for me it's like meditating. I'm just lost in that flow and I'm just in my own world. I am not even, it's not exercise. For me I'm meditating. When I go in nature the same. How do you feel about that and the different ways? What's your experience?

Speaker 2: 33:15

That's a powerful, powerful question. I love David Hawkins. He's the one that wrote Power Versus Force. His latest book was he's deceased now, but he's just an amazing human. His, his latest book was called letting go, and he liked to call it contemplation, Um. So I do think there's many ways to achieve what, what one wants to achieve.

Speaker 2: 33:37

In meditation, I love to just go, no, be nobody, nowhere, no place in no time, um, and become nothing, because it just honestly, when you just let go, there is such freedom in that it again it's what we resist persists. So when we try to push away, we try to ignore, we try to not feel those feelings, the feelings have a message. That's what's so cool about this work that I'm doing is that it helps. It's like God's knocking on the door and it's like if you ignore God, then the next thing you know, the door gets blown down and then you keep ignoring God and then the house gets blown down. It's like just take the message and process it and then God can stop knocking on the door. I often find that the message is something that is for your benefit. It's not trying to hurt you, it's trying to help you and if you can connect with it.

Speaker 2: 34:29

I actually own the domain name Brain Aikido, because in Aikido you don't push against energy. You bring the energy towards you and then you redirect it, and that's really the beauty of this. The fighting stops, the tug of war stops, that thing where you're pressing hands with somebody you know if the energy is just not there to press against, then there's no pressure. The pressure is all from pushing back on it. So again you could go inside and find that knot that's all tied up in there, like my meditation teacher would describe. And then my instruction to people is go into the knot and just where is the center of it? Rather than push away from it and avoid it and put it in a bundle and try to send it off into the sun, just go right into the very, very center of it and just sit there and see what happens, and usually it'll just start to unwrap. It'll be like a flower opening in the sun. Walking meditation is great. Yoga, of course, is designed for meditation. It's designed to help the mind quiet down. So when you reach that beautiful meditative state in yoga, that's perfect Nature grounding.

Speaker 2: 35:40

I just interviewed a fellow who went and lived with the Pita Ha, which is an obscure tribe in the Amazon, the Pita Ha, which is an obscure tribe in the Amazon and that's a wonderful book. It's called Don't Sleep, there Are Snakes, but it really clearly illustrates how, in modern society, when we get that whole left brain going, which categorizes, which compartmentalizes, you know, yes, we need that in order to get through life, but it's also the crazy making part of our, of our world. Um, because that's when we're comparing ourselves to other people. The Pita ha don't compare themselves to anybody. There's nothing to compete for except just to live each and every day.

Speaker 2: 36:17

They, they live in a rather dangerous environment. There are snakes that could devour you, there are Panthers that could eat you, there are poisonous everything. But they're happy people. They just, they laugh and they enjoy life much, much more than we do. If you measure, you know how much they're smiling and laughing. They eclipse us, and yet they don't. You know. They don't have fancy cars, they don't eat in expensive restaurants. They don't do any of that. You know, all they need is something over their head for when it's raining. Um, you know, they have a few little things that they put away here and there, but they, they don't have stuff. There's no keeping up with the Joneses.

Speaker 1: 36:59

You know, you mentioned that and, um, I can relate to that because, well, it could also be, because it was my childhood. So, as children, of course, we don't have the responsibilities and the challenges and all these things, unless there is trauma, of course, you know, and I come from Cuba, so and we literally come from the farm, where there's nothing like our floor was out of dirt and when it rained it rained inside the house, so and I was the happiest, I thought I had it all In my mind. I was a super happy child. I never lacked anything, you know, and, yeah, I can really relate with what you're saying, you know today, gabor Amate, a major MD who writes a lot about addiction.

Speaker 2: 37:55

It's the attunement that you have when you're growing up as a child. So my guess is, if you had a happy childhood, you were able to have somebody that you looked at and you felt like they appreciated, you, understood, you, cared about you. That's the attunement that is so valuable in childhood. So if you grow up in a mansion and you have two parents that aren't mentally, you know, able to look you in the eye and give you that love, that validation, that again it's called attunement. It's just knowing that there's a loving person there, a parent figure who cares about you, who gets you who, who is connected to you. You know that's where, that's where a lot of trauma comes. I've worked with Vietnam well, not Vietnam veterans, veterans in general who got 100 on their PTSD scores and that's the maximum. And you know they don't go back to wartime. They typically go back to somewhere in childhood.

Speaker 1: 38:53

Wow, I worked with vets for a little bit I think it was six months and it was a hard, hard time. That's. I mean they wow, it's the stories. I was just blown away and I really feel that the current system we have and it's not to speak bad about the current system I'm grateful for all the advancement we've done. It's part of the evolution process and just being aware of what's needed there's got to be another way. We need to find a way to help others and help ourselves, because it's the same thing and really just bringing this type of work. Hopefully they will start to bring it into the programs that actually support vets, you know, and counseling and stuff like that other than what there is currently. You know, and counseling and stuff like that other than what there is currently. Hopefully that you know there'll be more open and more open until there's a way for us to get in there and try to help from a different way.

Speaker 2: 39:57

Well, they did actually open the door and lay out the red carpet for acupuncture years ago, which is great, because I mean just putting acupuncture needles in the ear is tremendously helpful for the vagus nerve the vagus you know again dialing back that sympathetic response, so there's something called battlefield acupuncture. I mean really it's great for sleep issues, pain issues, trauma issues. So that's a very nice change that occurred in the VA system some years ago. And yes, I agree with you, it would be great to see meditation, breath work and, just honestly, community. You can boy, you can move mountains when you create community 100%.

Speaker 1: 40:40

Let me ask you we've heard a little bit about and just to kind of start wrapping up I know we've been speaking for a little bit um, how like were you always aside from that event that happened and you got into with that I'm patient of yours and stuff like that were you always interested in the, in this kind of stuff? Did this always like, intrigued you as a child? Was like, how were you as a teenage like kind of like a little bit on the, on the backstory, like was this? Um, like I don't. Were you always into this? How did like because usually, yeah, you have those aha moments Like, yeah, this is my. You know, I wanted that Like. For me, it was the Akashic records. Yes, I, you know I came across somebody told me about the Akashic records. I said I don't know what that is, but I want it no-transcript in my life Cause I just didn't need anything.

Speaker 2: 41:55

I was, I was seeing auras, I was blissed out, I was, and, and fortunately I did start coming back to planet earth, because really I don't know what you were in that state. I guess you could become like a guru or something. If you were in that state, I guess you could become like a guru or something, but that was my first entree to that. I have, fortunately, had many experiences like that. I've had experiences after yoga classes with high vibration people where all of a sudden it just hit me and I just felt it's just enlightenment, I don't know. So one day after a yoga class uh, I was, I was. I noticed there was this feeling in my heart and I noticed there was this silver thread going out from my heart and it went to my mother and I and I thought, oh, that's interesting, because my mother and I had had some, you know, issues at that time and I thought, huh, that's interesting. But it was this beautiful silver cord and I thought to myself, I wonder where else this silver cord goes. And in a nanosecond I saw that silver cord go to every sentient being on the planet and I was just in this state of awe and overwhelm. I'm literally laying on the floor in this yoga class, crying, sobbing, and everybody you know this is Shavasana and I think everybody's going oh, this poor woman. You know, something horrible is happening in her life. I'm sitting there in bliss, joy and ecstasy, with tears of tears of gratitude rolling down my cheek, and this went on for like five, 10 minutes and I went up to the teacher you know everybody's out of the class now and I'm. I finally get off the floor and I walk over to the teacher and she was a spiritually evolved person, so I didn't think she would think this was nuts. So I told her what had happened and she says she nods at me and she says oh, welcome to my world. She says I'm so happy for you, you had this wonderful experience. But I mean, she says I'm so happy for you, you had this wonderful experience. But I mean I've, fortunately, this has occurred to me in various forms, um, over the years, and I don't really I don't have full control over it. Um, you know, if I'm doing like a dispenser retreat, you know I'm going to have some kind of download or experience or mystical experience when I do that. Um, it has happened spontaneously and I'm very, very intrigued with.

Speaker 2: 44:12

On my podcast, I've interviewed many people with near-death experiences, so there's just so much richness there learning from people who have. Like Eben Alexander, I interviewed him. He's arguably became more brain dead than any human being ever. He's a neurosurgeon, a brain surgeon, so when he had that experience and wrote about it, people listened and this was on the New York Times bestseller list for 40 weeks, proof of heaven.

Speaker 2: 44:40

I interviewed Mark Gober, who wrote this fabulous book that quantifies mathematically all these experiences that people are having that don't fit Newtonian physics. It's one of the best books on quantum physics and consciousness in the brain. He proves that consciousness is not located in our brain and he does it in a way that a 10-year-old could understand, because he's used to doing very, very high-level um, quantum, uh, quant, uh, quantification for wall street. Um, he's a summa cum laude graduate from Princeton, so he knows how to take very, very complex information and make it so that, um, anybody can understand it. So, um, uh, that's another fellow that I've interviewed on my on my podcast.

Speaker 2: 45:23

So, um, I, I'm just, I'm so grateful that, um, this connection has been there throughout my life. Um, I mean it, it's, it's, I'm more grateful. It is what I'm grateful for. Um, because there isn't anything more valuable. There's nothing pan, there's nothing 3d. That's more valuable, um, because when you're connected to source, uh, it's, it's, it's beautiful, it's um it, it feels, it's so fulfilling and, and the more you get connected to that, I find, the more you're able to help other people, and then that is is got rewards, that, um, that exceed anything else. So I think I answered your question.

Speaker 1: 46:12

You did and you went even above that. So thank you for always going beyond, you know, just the question and really giving more insight and also recommendations, because a lot of the recommendations you've given you know they can start off by listening to the episode on your podcast from there if they have an interest in the book or whatever further information they can.

Speaker 2: 46:32

On my website I have a whole page of books, because I I in fact, hopefully I'll be putting out like a weekly book report, which I started to do a while ago. I just didn't completely tick the box on that one, but there are so many fabulous resources out there and I love giving people maximum exposure and just access, because nothing makes me happier than seeing somebody dump the old version of themselves that was holding them down, making them feel bad, making them feel not worthy. Like you say in your opening, we are all connect, we are all part of this beautiful soup, and Mark Gober has a page in his book, an End to Upside Down Thinking which shows that the golden rule exists in every single religion on the planet. And obviously I mean because I was going right into that into religion.

Speaker 1: 47:25

I try to hold it off, but I always I don't know. There's always something I want to. I want to touch on it. So, look, one of the main messages that I want to bring and one of the things I want to start sharing more on Instagram is for us to be able to speak about whatever source is. For you, it does not matter, Like honestly, if your source has a different name, a different sex, a different energy, whatever, it doesn't matter. To me, it's all love. In the end, I like the core essence of it and consciousness infinite, pure, loving, infinite consciousness. But I would love for us to be able to speak about source, even if it's. If it's your God looks different than my God, so what?

Speaker 1: 48:14

can we find the common thread in humanity for Christ's sake, like my God, like, how does that still divide us? I don't it's, it's, it's beyond. You know me at this point. Like my family, for example, and I, I always like to talk about my own experiences because you know, pointing the fingers really easy. Um, my family, I think all of us have a different religion.

Speaker 1: 48:40

Like I, I'm non-dogmatic, I don't have one per se, but I've been through many, many different religions throughout my my journey and all of us have a different religion and it's very, very interesting and they're all very like. No, this is the one way. So it's really quite interesting when we speak about God, where we're able to bring the walls down and still find the common thread and love and respect for us in that discussion and my family really does not have that education or that awareness or that at all you would figure like we would all kill each other trying to push each other's perspectives into each other's faces. But no, and it's really surprising, like there's something higher, like, no, it's okay if your God's different, you know it's. How are you as a person? How are your actions? How are your thoughts? How are you impacting the world? That is the commonalities of God. I don't care what you name it. What are your thoughts on that? What does your God look like?

Speaker 2: 49:53

no-transcript. And I keep going back to quantum physics, because it's like we're all swimming in the same river and it seems that our individual identities is like a whirlpool within the river, but the whirlpool comes and goes. We're all part of that same energy. So you know it's funny, you were talking about fighting over my God versus your God. That reminds me of an old movie called Gulliver's Travels. Do you remember that movie?

Speaker 1: 50:23

No.

Speaker 2: 50:24

This movie is ancient.

Speaker 2: 50:26

I'm Cuban, I probably have not seen any of those movies, but it's basically this giant that ends up on this land of this island of little people. And the people are fighting, their civil war is over, which end of the egg you're supposed to break? So when people fight over whose God is better, that reminds me of Gulliver's trowels, which I'm actually grateful, because my connection to spirit is very, very strong and I don't feel like that was imprinted on me. It was just something that came forth because it was there and it was wanting to be acknowledged and wanting expression.

Speaker 2: 51:17

I, jesus, did say you will know them by their fruits and I I love that quote because if, if somebody is behaving in a way that we all admire, you know, if they're kind, if they're generous, if they're loving, if they make life better for other people, those are beautiful fruits. Um, you know, when I look at what Dr Joe Dispenza is doing and bringing people into heart and brain coherence and their microbiome is improving and their brain waves are improving and they're dropping, you know their mental struggles, their physical health is skyrocketing those are beautiful fruits. So I love that litmus test. If the fruits are good, then I think the plant is good.

Speaker 2: 52:00

Again, with my work, it's just so obvious how much trouble we get into, when we get into the left brain and we have to compartmentalize, the pitaha don't even have a number system. They don't need it because they're so connected to nature. It's just like there's a little bit, there's a lot there's. They don't need numbers. And again, these are very, very happy people that are very living in the moment. So I again, I hope I answered that question.

Speaker 1: 52:32

Yeah, sorry, I tried to squeeze as much out of you for the time that I do have you here, out of you for the time that I do have you here. Any last messages, anything you want to end with? Also let people know. I know we've touched on here and there, but maybe more specifics as to what are some of your services where they can find you, or any other messages you want to.

Speaker 2: 52:57

For any of your listeners. They can go on my website and just shoot me a message. Say that they heard the podcast. I have a meditation called Unzip Remember we were talking about getting out of the mind, so this is just a simple meditation. It's very short, it's like 10 minutes but it'll help you unzip out of this drama that you're in and just go into nothing. So that's my gift to you, um, from listening to this podcast. If you'd like to hear that, um, there is a let's talk button, so if you feel like you've been struggling with something for a long time, you can click that, answer some questions as to what it is that you've been struggling with, how it's been impacting you, what you've tried to do to resolve it so far. And I do have a half hour um time period that people can connect with me and see if this is a good fit for them.

Speaker 1: 53:40

That's beautiful, perfect Instagram.

Speaker 2: 53:44

I'm on Instagram. It's Dr D-R-T-A-R-A Perry P-E-R-R-Y Would love to connect with you on Instagram and my podcast, next Level Healing. I have all kinds of incredible guests that I'm so, so, so privileged and delighted to connect with, a lot of people who have been through near death experiences. The fellow that I'm so, so, so privileged and delighted to connect with, a lot of people who have been through near-death experiences the fellow that I mentioned, who had the 40 years of back pain from breaking his spine, pulled his son out of a 22-day coma. He had had a near-death experience when he was younger. So when his son was in this coma and the hospital wanted to harvest the organs, they were actually rather adamant that the brain wasn't coming back and they wanted to harvest the organs. They were actually rather adamant that the brain wasn't coming back and they wanted to harvest the organs.

Speaker 2: 54:23

The father had had a near-death experience. So he goes and connects to the son and says look, if you want to leave, I know it's a beautiful place, I respect that, but if you want to come back, he says track your eyes from left to right, give me a sign so I can help you. The eyes tracked from left to right, and so he sets up a coherence healing, which is a Dr Joe thing, and rather than six healers, which is kind of the normal number, he ends up with a group of like 50 healers from all over the world, and he includes the friends of the kid. He did it on a Friday and a Monday. Guess what happened.

Speaker 1: 54:55

Oh, I can guess what happened okay.

Speaker 2: 54:59

So I interviewed both the father and the son. The son's in beautiful, you know, just gorgeous young man. Um, this is just very, very kind-hearted people. So, um, you can go back. Um, it's a few months that I did that, um, but you very clearly can see that this man pulled his son out of a coma and how he did it. So, yeah, next Level Healing it's on all platforms Would love to connect with anybody and everybody listening to this message who wants to live a better life.

Speaker 2: 55:27

And kudos to you with taking this work into prisons and working with people that are really struggling. I know Dr Joe is also doing that. It is such rewarding work to connect to people. That's another thing that Jesus said. Rewarding work to connect to people. That's another thing that Jesus said. Jesus said help those who are. If you help those who are less than you are, you are helping me. And again that goes back to the quantum field, because everything is you and that includes everything that's. That's our environment, that's our world, that's our planet. You know, just have stewardship for, for your community, for your family, for yourself, because it's all part of the same thing, just just like the opening of your show says so I just want to end.

Speaker 1: 56:09

I normally don't advertise this on on our podcast, but I have to because it just that message that you ended with is so beautiful. And on my second book I have a 10-year peace treaty request for all of humanity and all leaders of the world and I will love it if it resonates with you guys. Go in there, read through it and it's just to sign the petition. It's on changeorg and maybe we can make a big enough noise to get it out there. And we need this peace treaty. We need some time for all of us to kind of just be more aware of that oneness that we all are.

Speaker 2: 56:52

Mother Teresa said I won't attend any anti-war rally. She says you have a peace rally and I will show up every single time.

Speaker 1: 57:04

Amen, we'll finish with that one. That's beautiful. Thank you so much.